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Denise ([staff profile] denise) wrote in [site community profile] dw_news2023-08-30 11:41 pm

US, UK: Please take a moment to contact your elected officials!

We're currently in the middle of an unprecedented wave of governmental attempts worldwide to control social media through the legislative and regulatory process, often in the interests of protecting children. Unfortunately, the methods being proposed as a solution are dangerous and damaging to everyone. If you live in the US or UK and have a few minutes today, we at Dreamwidth would like to ask you to contact your elected officials and ask them to oppose several of the worst of the pending bills.

If you live in the US: KOSA, the Kids Online Safety Act, claims to be a bill that will protect children's privacy and restrict them from viewing harmful material. If you've followed our efforts to help overturn California's AB 2273, you likely already know the problems with KOSA, because they're the same problems: requiring websites to age-gate the internet will require every website to identify, deanonymize, and store information about every single one of their users, not just people under 18, to determine who shouldn't see content deemed "harmful to children". It also politicizes the question of what's "harmful to children" in ways that will disproportionally affect the marginalized. If you don't want to be forced to upload your government issued ID or subject yourself to unscientific, unvalidated, black-box biometric 'verification' every time you visit a website, learn more about the issues with the bill and then contact your elected officials to tell them you oppose its passage.

If you live in the UK: The Online Safety Bill will criminalize a large amount of lawful speech, ban strong encryption, and empower Ofcom to block access to websites with no accountability and no recourse. Multiple providers and services have already said they'll stop offering services to UK residents if it passes, including Wikipedia and WhatsApp. Please take a moment to learn more about the issues with the bill and then contact your MP to tell them you oppose its passage.

There are dozens of other terrible bills in various stages of the legislative process worldwide that will threaten your right to express yourself and hand the government the power to censor and deanonymize you online: those are only the two biggest threats right now. We will continue to do everything we can to contribute to the legal fights being fought by various organizations that are working to protect your right to be anonymous and speak freely on Dreamwidth and elsewhere online, but the best way to do that is to not have to have the legal fight in the first place. Please let your elected representatives know that you oppose efforts to require age verification to access content online and to force websites to engage in government-mandated censorship.
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[personal profile] muccamukk 2023-08-31 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for keeping us all in the loop!
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[personal profile] wraithmoon 2023-08-31 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for keeping us in the loop.
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[personal profile] bens_dad 2023-08-31 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
The UK link is two years old and we have had two prime ministers since then. The Bill has been gutted, redrafted and repurposed since then, though I doubt it is any better.

Can anyone point me at any more up to date criticisms ? If we are to lobby our MPs we need to tell them what is wrong with the current bill.

Thanks,

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[personal profile] soc_puppet 2023-08-31 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
[tumblr.com profile] luckyladylily has some key words for social scripts if you're stuck with a conservative in the US:

One trick, if your senator is a republican [...], write about how angry you are about this economy killing bill. Make sure to use terms like “excessive regulations” and “red tape”, saying how mad you are it will hurt companies.

(Rebloggable.)

It may not be (all of) why we are angry about this bill, but it can help to tailor your outrage to who you have to act on your behalf.
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[personal profile] cu_sidhe 2023-08-31 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
As a libertarian, I would also add mention of "government overreach," as some Republicans either like to pretend they're libertarian, or have certain leanings in that direction.

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[personal profile] ride_4ever 2023-08-31 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you kindly for this important information!
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[personal profile] cu_sidhe 2023-08-31 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
There is also a change.org petition for those more shy about drafting an e-mail:

stop the KOSA
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[personal profile] labingi 2023-08-31 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for sharing this link. Maybe it's just me, but I can't find the text of this petition. What is actually being sent to Congress, just the words "Stop the KOSA"? Or do I just not know how to navigate the internet (very likely)?

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[personal profile] shadowbliss 2023-08-31 07:00 am (UTC)(link)
I'm an Australian, I hope both work out for the better.
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[personal profile] makamu 2023-08-31 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not from either of these countries, so I can't do anything directly, but thank you for keeping us informed all the same
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[personal profile] nordickk 2023-08-31 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
The USA and the UK are closely aligned. Perhaps it's beneficial to have an alternative power center, like Russia, even if it's often portrayed negatively?
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[personal profile] vlad_m 2023-08-31 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
Are you kidding me?
Do you happen to know how many people in Russia are in jail nowadays or even murdered for speaking and writing things the government didn't like?
Russia is just a bit ahead of the US on the way to the 100% totalitarian state. Almost there.
Do not take this road.
Go back if already did.

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[personal profile] vlad_m 2023-08-31 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
That's exactly (among other things) what the people need to do to keep politicians under control.
Take it from Russian: if you allow the government to censor you speech both on- and offline ("to protect the children", of course) they will come to take all of your freedoms. it just the matter of time.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2023-08-31 09:57 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for helping to educated everyone about these harmful bills.

[personal profile] sergei_tachenov 2023-08-31 09:57 am (UTC)(link)
What about the EU? Anything going on here we should be aware of?
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[personal profile] loganberrybunny 2023-08-31 11:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. It's only a few months since a leaked document showed that Spain was pushing for end-to-end encryption to be completely outlawed. Also from that Wired link:

"Denmark and Ireland expressed support for scanning encrypted messengers for child sexual abuse material while also endorsing the inclusion of wording in the law that protects end-to-end encryption from being weakened."

In other words, the mythical "back door for good guys only". Sigh.

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[personal profile] madfilkentist 2023-08-31 09:59 am (UTC)(link)
This is dangerous stuff indeed. Society is increasingly turning away from the ideal of free discourse, putting "free speech" in mocking quotes. Politicians use "protecting the children" as an excuse for grabbing power.

The test of commitment to free speech is your willingness to recognize the rights of those whom you don't agree with and may even despise. Whether you call it "hate speech" or "grooming," if you make an exception for it, what you advocate is freedom for those who agree with you — and who doesn't advocate that?
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[personal profile] pauamma 2023-08-31 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression."
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[personal profile] lilacsigil 2023-08-31 10:24 am (UTC)(link)
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/aug/31/roadmap-for-age-verification-online-pornographic-material-adult-websites-australia-law

Australia has just had a win on (one part of) this kind of law on privacy grounds. Keep pushing for your countries to do the same!
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[personal profile] rampitec 2023-08-31 10:45 am (UTC)(link)
So... You have changed your hosting, because your old one did not promptly ban the dissent. And now you are wondering about the restrictions on the free speech. Hilarious, isn't it? Did you think they will not come after you?

I remember, you have already suggested me to find a platform I like. I did. Left (almost) this one and relocated. No need to remember again. JFYI: since you suggested it, I have wrote literally zero posts. So I obey.
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[personal profile] vlad_m 2023-08-31 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
So, where have you relocated?

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[personal profile] veritas_poet 2023-08-31 11:42 am (UTC)(link)
It is difficult, especially when there IS filth being peddled to children, including the sexual deviancy of the rainbow brigade, which is even being pushed in schools! And, of course, the current filth of telling white children they are racists solely based on the color of their skin.

The truly evil part is these two things WILL be defended, even by those who claim they hate "censorship." You'll see it in the comments here.

But this is what happens when there's no transcendent standard for morality. (As the Bible establishes and commands there to be.) Everything is just a matter of everyone's varying opinions.
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Sir, this is a Wendy's.

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[personal profile] coolliquid 2023-08-31 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I bastardi schifosi... :(
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Damn shame.

[personal profile] jazznevermore 2023-08-31 02:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for raising awareness about this. This flagrant crusade against free speech and expression has gone far enough, and we need to stand firmly against it.

These fascists who call themselves "politicians" claim to be "protecting rights" but are only exercising these policies to exercise control over information and silence anyone that they deem unworthy of having a voice. It's truly disgusting.

They don't care about rights. They're only desstroying them.
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Re: Damn shame.

[personal profile] jasonderoga86 2023-09-08 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. We're living in an age where nationalism and literal "follow the Leader" is being woven into legislations for the sole purpose of protecting amoral narcissists with egos thinner than human hair. I can't stand when religion is thrown into it, especially when the same ones quoting Scripture are out there preaching death to the "other".

They either need to practice with they preach or clam up. I'm sick of seeing religion being weaponized as a fearmongering tool by rich and privileged individuals with an insatiable lust for power. It's the greatest of crimes against humanity. People by nature hate being controlled by anyone, including world leaders and oppressive governments.

Look at the Comics Code Authority fiasco spearheaded by Wertham, as told in Scott McCloud's "Understanding Comics". It's censorship in spades, to the point of literally burning comics in the streets because ONE GUY said they're deviant and kid-harmful material. Telling someone what they can and can't write or read is dictating the person, CONTROLLING the person with the threat of legal action. Ugly.
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[personal profile] claire_chan 2023-08-31 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for sharing this information among those who use Dreamwidth, Denise. I used the link you gave to contact my legislators, but didn't go after the third publicly-elected official I could have since I'm feeling a bit too chilly.
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[personal profile] rotbar 2023-08-31 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
As I understand it, freedom is over here?
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2023-08-31 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! Weighed in! I'd say it's a sad twist that the bill intended to keep kids safe puts the most vulnerable in danger... but unfortunately, "keeping kids safe" often means "keeping kids controlled," which isn't the same.
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[personal profile] volchara 2023-08-31 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course kids need protection. That was the reason for the previous migration, wasnt it?
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[personal profile] volchara 2023-08-31 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Again: if you can't tell the difference between "the government is applying state power to restrict what citizens can say and what information they can access" and "we, a private business, have decided to stop doing business with another private business because we don't believe they're behaving responsibly", I can't help you. The entire reason we are seeing these waves of legislation trying to establish government censorship and deanonymization is because a large number of people believe that the voluntary Trust and Safety efforts private businesses are taking are inadequate. Putting pressure on private businesses to improve their handling of Trust and Safety issues -- such as through their customers withdrawing their business and their users finding alternate service providers -- is itself a form of speech. We are not the state and we cannot employ the power of the state to compel Cloudflare to do or not do anything. We are a private business who does not want to do business with another private business whose Trust and Safety systems are inadequate to the point of their continuing to provide services to a client whose website contains child sexual abuse material and behaving as though continuing to provide services to that client is a righteous act.

It is a pity that was frozen and I can't answer there. Because I totally, absolutely, without any doubt agree!
The part I disagree is that self-censoring not enough, this is the reason why Government needs to bring more laws and regulations so private business as yours would really comply. And I hope they will bring even more regulations so you would see the light at the end.

Because kids need to be protected at any cost! And if your clients are deanonymized, so what. The Law is the Law!
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[personal profile] cathyw 2023-08-31 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
sent to my Democratic rep and senators:
"...the "harmful to minors" standard is overly broad and has no consensus behind it, as can be seen by conflicts over library books in many states, counties, and towns. Is LGBTQ+ content "harmful to minors"? Is fact-based comprehensive sex education? Is accurate information about the history of racism in the US? Differences of opinion on questions like these could turn state lines into state firewalls, or, worse, could ultimately require the entire Internet to be "safe for minors" to the standards of the most censorious among us."
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[personal profile] ladyjax 2023-08-31 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I contacted both Dianne Feinstein's and Alex Padilla's offices but only heard back from Padilla. I'm adding his response to me below:


Dear Ms. Gxxxx

Thank you for writing to share your thoughts regarding online safety for children and teens. I appreciate hearing from you.

Our children are among the most vulnerable members of our society, and I strongly believe that we have an obligation to care for their mental and physical well-being. Digital platforms have become key spaces for education, socialization, and entertainment for young people, and it is important that they are able to utilize these services safely.

The “Kids Online Safety Act” (S.1409), introduced by Senator Richard Blumenthal (D-CT), seeks to provide young people and their parents with tools, safeguards, and information that would be helpful to safely navigate online services. This bill would require internet companies to act in the best interests of the minors that use their platforms and would require platforms to be independently audited by experts to assess their risk to minors. This bill passed the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation on July 27, 2023, and it is currently awaiting consideration by the full Senate.

I understand you have concerns that this bill may negatively impact individual privacy and freedom of expression online, especially for diverse communities. Please know that I appreciate hearing your perspective on this issue, and I will keep your thoughts in mind should this bill or similar legislation come before the full Senate for a vote.

Once again, thank you for writing. Should you have any other questions or comments, please call my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3553 or visit my website at padilla.senate.gov. You can also follow me on Facebook and Twitter, and you can sign up for my email newsletter at padilla.senate.gov/newsletter.


It's the most milqtoast "nothing to see here" response I've seen in a while.
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[personal profile] arethinn 2023-08-31 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Augh. Those are my senators too. Fun.

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Canada??

[personal profile] iampoesraven 2023-08-31 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
What about us??

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